I was wondering what everyone thought about implementing the rules for each system this year. I think, for the most part, people understand what fair play is. At the same time it would be a good idea to go over specifics in advance.

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"Laser Sports Promoter"

...until you play storm. Then all of the above is okay. <_<

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-Tonks

If a system has rules then thats what should be played as. Thats the way of the game!

I would like to ask.... no.. DEMAND... that players be allowed to view the playing area of Darklight. We were able to do it in the other centers, why not there? Was it just me? I don't think so. I went in there and dude was totally rude when I asked to look inside. HOLY SHIT it's not like I work at one! Oh wait... I'M ALSO AN ADULT (sort of), and you know, it doesn't seem right that no one else from the teams that have played in this arena many times before (Jabbs) stands up and says something on our behalf. It generally made me hate Darklight. Being my first time playing it, being treated like I'm retarded and can't be allowed in to LOOK at the arena I'm about to play on that I paid MONEY for, and have all you assholes who HAVE seen it not even give a damn. I hope you are happy on your tainted victory over us Darklight newbs on your junk-ass Aztec's scenario. Oh, I sure hope I get to "face off" in a "dogfight" like a dancing idiot when we play the other systems! Thanks Nathan!

Maybe that's all changed. I hope so. I like bad words.

Joe I am very disappointed in you of all people, going off and being rude towards a center for having unique house rules and policies. You who have been a manager of a site for so long. How would you take to someone DEMANDING Pittsburgh altered its rules. Every site does things their own way. Pitt Storm likes to tell players that you can not plug packs from the wall jack, leading to my team (despite having several of us who not only worked at a tag site but at storm sites specifically) being screamed at like we were retarded for trying to "blow up" a pack that needed to be reset.

This doesnt mean you have to agree with them. I personally agree with you and Ziggy on the idea that players should always be able to view a field before a tournament, and I personally do not always agree with Laser One on all of their policies. However I try to respect them, respect the site, and work with the operator. Being that it is my nearest Darklight site I am quite familiar with many more unusual rules they have than just this one (Assassin can tell quite a story about not being allowed to smoke during an entire lock-in).

As Ricky can attest (since he was there on a site visit when I made one of my many please to the operator about this issue), I did my utmost to secure permission for players to see the field ahead of time. It was denied, Ricky respected the operators wishes and so do I. This included distributing a map. Thankfully this year that won't be the case. However it is doubtful they will allow players to walk the field first (though once again I will try).

Saying that no one stood up for the visitors and tried to get the owner to change position is both categorically untrue and quite frankly ungrateful of all the time, effort, and money spent by those who set this up, who repeatedly tried to negotiate for field time with the owner. The best we managed to do was a discounted All-You-Can-Play offered to geddon people the night before, and the day of. I even offered to be a tour guide of sorts and join the game that Ziggy mentioned wherein players would be allowed to explore the field. Only three people actually took up the offer.

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-Aztec
aka: "Nate"

i agree xxx to most of that extent.
it is unprofessional for any arena to host an event on this caliber and deny the athlets a look at the field.
Syndicate did a wonderful job trying to secure the arena for us, unfortunatly house rules are some times...odd...to say the least.

It is incredibly unfair for the teams that have not seen the arena to not GET to see the arena before hand in some form or fashion.
there for:
i will either pay for a game to see the arena or, my personal favorite, play a 'party mom' looking to host her kids bday there :)
hahaha

Oh shut up Nathan. I would NEVER deny permission to explore our arena. Me being an tag manager for 10 damn years I understand that there is NO REASON not to allow it. It's stubborn, narrow-minded, and senseless. WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL? I wasn't rude to a center either you jackass. I was stating my opinion here on a forum. If I was to be rude I would have snuck in against their will. I would have called the store and screamed at the owner. What's with you? Making shit up... Not the first time (Blast last year)

Ok, I"m glad to see at least someone attempted to get us in there. As far as you and resetting our packs.... you guys are creepy looking and the staff had no idea who you are. Can you blame them?

Joe, note that I said I agreed with you on the issue of players ought to be allowed to see a field. You don't have to try to convince me of such as I am already of the same opinion as you. As I said I tried to get armageddon in last year and will be trying again this year because it is how tournaments should be done in my opinion.

That said, stating that you do not ask but rather demand that the center changes its rules is being rude. It may just be you trying to state your opinion emphatically on these boards but remember they are not secret. Each operator hosting us has a copy of the web address, and Jim (the DL operator) has read them several times. Writing on here that you demand he change his rules and that he was "dude was totally rude" is in effect the same thing as if you had called up the center itself, at least the outcome would be the same. There is a distinct difference in writing that you disagree with the store policy and saying that you felt you were "being treated like I'm retarded" when discussing the site operator.

As for getting in this year, it is either a go from the operator or not. Understand this would be a HUGE change in policy, as they do not let anyone in, even party moms etc. This includes me (and I have played hundreds of games there), it even includes former staff.

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-Aztec
aka: "Nate"

But Na-than... he WAS rude to me. My FIRST armageddon, the FIRST DAY, at the FIRST CENTER and the representative did indeed treat me like I as retarded and offer no valid explanation as to why I couldn't see what I was about to get involved with. Note why I was so amiable for the rest of that day.

For the life of me I can't even fabricate a remotely valid reason. We all went in eventually, and ran around with their equipment. So why not a casual walkthrough? Not nearly as unsafe, that's for sure. You'd be an idiot not to agree with me... I told you to shut up because I do not feel I am out of line. I'm dropping all this money and time to compete in a totally alien system and.... ok .... I'm just going to repeat myself if I keep going.

I demand lots of things. Got a problem? I already asked. I asked REAL NICE TOO!! And we all know how well that worked out. Should I beg next time?

Nathan has put in a lot of work to make Armageddon happen this year. Without his hard work we might not be playing at all.

Everyone agrees with you that players should always be able to see an arena before they play on it. Everyone agrees that the management of laserone seems to have something up their ass regarding their stupid house rule. So you're trying to blame Nathan for this, as if it's somehow his fault?

The amount of anger a person communicates to others is in inverse purportion to the quality of their sex life. Please stop flaunting the problems of your sex life on these forums! We really don't want to hear about them!

-Zigs